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Message 426 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 15:39:12 UTC
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Tomas Brada
I'll give you 128 WU, they will look like this

IAEDCLHQS
IAEDCLKNS
IAEDCLNKS
IAEDCLNUK
IAEDCLQSH
IAEDCLQUH
IAEDCLSNK
IAEDCLSQH
IAEDCNSKK
IAEDCPTKK
IAEDCQHKS
. . . . .
IAEDDRKUG
IAEDDRTKG
IAEDDRTKO
IAEDDRUKG
IAEDDRUQG
IAEDDSGLQ
IAEDDSGQK
IAEDDSOLK
IAEDDSOLQ
IAEDDTKKM
IAEDDTKLM
IAEDDTKLO
IAEDDTKRG
IAEDDTMLK

These are the names of the LSs families.

I'll give you a generator that uses family names and generates tasks.
Will you do the generation yourself?

Generating and sending such large files is unwise.

This is an experiment of Belyshev, which we prepared with ice00, but we could not run it in the ODLK1 project.

We performed this experiment with Demis manually, but did not complete it.
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Message 427 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 16:04:40 UTC - in response to Message 426.  

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I'll give you 128 WU
I'll give you a generator that uses family names and generates tasks. Will you do the generation yourself?


Yes I will be able to. But you need to explain how. But please remember, I do know nothing about DLK, except that they are special form of matrix.
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Message 428 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 16:19:31 UTC

Here is the block #14 of tasks
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/MGBG/gQRkqp4ec

The archive contains WU 131-140.
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Message 429 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 16:23:07 UTC - in response to Message 427.  

Yes I will be able to. But you need to explain how. But please remember, I do know nothing about DLK, except that they are special form of matrix.

Yes, of course, I will explain to you how to use the generator.

It is very simple. Knowledge of DLS is not required.
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Message 430 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 16:59:12 UTC
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Tomas Brada
In the archive you see the file names_44323p_21332.txt you see 21332 names of LSs families.
Select a porcion of families, for example, 128 families, and record this porcion in the names.txt file
I recorded the first 10 families.

Now run the script gen_4_31_31.bat.
After executing the script, you will see the WU in folder, for example
family_4_31_31_IAEDCLHQS_16384.txt
etc
WU will be exactly as many written in the file names.txt families.

It's all about generation.

You need to check these WUs with the same family_mar program

After checking the first porcion of families, you’ll check the next porcion.

If you have questions, please ask.

Link
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/Ew8c/HqXB7mpW5
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Message 432 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 17:26:17 UTC
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I received and processed the results of blocks 9, 12, 13.
Found in these blocks 107 unique CF ODLS.

Found a unique group of three pairs ODLS!

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 5 6 7 9 3 0 1 2 4 8
 1 2 5 4 7 3 9 8 0 6
 6 0 3 8 2 7 5 4 9 1
 3 7 4 5 9 2 8 6 1 0
 8 9 6 2 1 4 0 3 7 5
 2 5 9 6 8 1 7 0 3 4
 4 8 0 7 5 9 3 1 6 2
 9 3 8 1 0 6 4 5 2 7
 7 4 1 0 6 8 2 9 5 3
sq1

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 7 6 8 9 3 0 1 2 4 5
 1 2 7 4 8 3 9 5 0 6
 6 0 3 5 2 8 7 4 9 1
 3 8 4 7 9 2 5 6 1 0
 5 9 6 2 1 4 0 3 7 8
 2 5 9 6 7 1 8 0 3 4
 4 7 0 8 5 9 3 1 6 2
 9 3 5 1 0 6 4 8 2 7
 8 4 1 0 6 7 2 9 5 3
sq2

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 8 6 7 9 3 0 1 2 4 5
 1 2 8 4 7 3 9 5 0 6
 6 0 3 5 2 7 8 4 9 1
 3 7 4 8 9 2 5 6 1 0
 5 9 6 2 1 4 0 3 7 8
 2 5 9 6 8 1 7 0 3 4
 4 8 0 7 5 9 3 1 6 2
 9 3 5 1 0 6 4 8 2 7
 7 4 1 0 6 8 2 9 5 3
sq3

Square:
 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 1 2 0 4 5 9 7 8 6 3
 9 4 3 5 6 2 8 1 7 0
 4 8 6 7 9 1 2 0 3 5
 8 3 7 9 1 0 4 5 2 6
 2 0 1 6 3 8 5 9 4 7
 7 6 5 8 0 4 9 3 1 2
 3 5 4 2 8 7 0 6 9 1
 6 7 9 0 2 3 1 4 5 8
 5 9 8 1 7 6 3 2 0 4

DLS Square is the main DLS, sq1, sq2, sq3 - orthogonal DLSs.
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Message 434 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 17:51:49 UTC

My pseudo-associative DLSs generation program is written in BASIC.

ice00 tried to rewrite the program in C++
But this program does not work.
Demis and I found some bugs in the C++ ice00 version
However, the program has not been completed.

If someone wants to try to get a version of C++ from my original, please write me a PM.
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Message 435 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 18:04:38 UTC
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By the way, Belyshev has developed a new experiment.
Software can be downloaded from here.
http://forum.boinc.ru/default.aspx?g=posts&m=91313#post91313

This is a short experiment, totaling 52517 WU.

See
https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=45&postid=308

Demis and I checked more than half of the WU in this experiment.
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Message 436 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 18:33:20 UTC

I have not yet received the results of blocks 10 and 11.

Did I miss anything?
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Message 437 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 18:46:18 UTC

jozef j
I got your results from blocks 6, 7, 8, 12.
Thanks.

This is for the quorum. Tomorrow I'll check.

I have no results from blocks 10, 11 yet.
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Message 438 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 19:10:16 UTC

is on way, blocks just finnish in a different time , than i started crunch them.
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Message 439 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 19:11:04 UTC

I will start blocks 10 and 11.

I tested the generator and I think it works. I can generate the input files from family names to check and they check good. I modified my batch script so it works in this new scheme. I will send you some results. Before I queue up a lot of families to check, I want to make sure I am not running duplicate.

Natalia Makarova The file names_44323p_21332.txt contains 21332 family names: Which of them should I check? You wrote that you already done half of the experiment.
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Message 440 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 19:24:21 UTC

Jozef already did, not starting.

Natalia, I noticed some of the families do not produce results (Марьяжных ДЛК нет). Are you interested in those or just the Marjažne DLK?
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Message 441 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 22:39:22 UTC

i have submitted results for block 14. :)
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Message 443 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 23:45:11 UTC - in response to Message 439.  

Natalia Makarova The file names_44323p_21332.txt contains 21332 family names: Which of them should I check? You wrote that you already done half of the experiment.

There are three files with families in the experiment

1. names_43423_26489.txt (26489 families)
2. names_44323_4696.txt (4696 families)
3. names_44323p_21332.txt (21332 families)

We have completely checked the first two files.

Now you need to check the names_44323p_21332.txt file.

All families are different and do not give the same tasks.
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Message 444 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 23:49:11 UTC - in response to Message 440.  


Natalia, I noticed some of the families do not produce results (Марьяжных ДЛК нет). Are you interested in those or just the Marjažne DLK?

Yes, it's true.
Not all families give solutions. In this case, there will be no entry in the output file output.txt.
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Message 445 - Posted: 18 Dec 2018, 23:59:03 UTC - in response to Message 439.  

I will start blocks 10 and 11.

I received the results of blocks 10, 11, 14.

Now I will process the results.

Maybe we should think about how everyone can generate and check tasks on their own?
This was my original idea of an “individual assignment".

Tomas Brada has already received an individual assignment.

The process consists of
1. generation WU;
2. check WU.
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Message 446 - Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 0:08:50 UTC - in response to Message 373.  
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You should see that it works when you will find some solution TXT file produced by the program (the average rate should be something like 1:3 as in 15.967 families tested so far in server, 5.108 produces solutions).

Tomas Brada
This is also from the experiment of Belyshev.

But I don't know which families the ice00 checked.
And the results he did not send me.
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Message 447 - Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 0:43:40 UTC
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I processed the results of blocks 10, 11, 14.
102 unique CFs ODLS found in these blocks.

All blocks 1 - 14 are checked.

Thank you all!

Who is ready to get an individual assignment?
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Message 448 - Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 2:50:08 UTC - in response to Message 443.  
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Now you need to check the names_44323p_21332.txt file.

All families are different and do not give the same tasks.

There is a lot of work.
I propose to divide all the tasks for three: Tomas Brada, Peppernrino, jozef j.

21332/3 approximately 7111 WU for each.

In this experiment WUs contain less squares than in my experiment. The largest WU contains 16384 squares.

Tomas Brada
can you lay out a script to generate and check WU?

jozef j, Peppernrino
please familiarize yourself with this experiment.
Can you take part in it?
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