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Message 472 - Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 8:23:21 UTC
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I processed your results.
Found 4786 unique CF ODLS, including 31 groups of four ODLS pairs.

According to your results format, I cannot determine which families you checked.
In addition, many families do not produce solutions.

Could you send a list of all the families you checked?
We need to find out which families are checked from the names_44323p_21332.txt group.

While it is obvious that the check of this group of families is not completed.
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Message 473 - Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 8:59:28 UTC

I Allocate IAFECTULH..IAFUDWHLC.
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Message 474 - Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 9:24:02 UTC - in response to Message 473.  

I Allocate IAFECTULH..IAFUDWHLC.

Good.
This corresponds to families numbers 1554 - 3089.

You have a great output format!

# Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IAEDFXNKG
0 3 8 9 6 2 7 5 4 1
5 1 4 7 2 3 9 8 0 6
9 4 2 0 7 1 8 3 6 5
2 6 7 3 1 9 4 0 5 8
6 5 0 2 4 8 1 9 3 7
8 7 3 4 9 5 2 6 1 0
4 9 1 5 8 0 6 2 7 3
1 0 6 8 5 4 3 7 9 2
3 2 9 6 0 7 5 1 8 4
7 8 5 1 3 6 0 4 2 9

0 5 9 4 2 7 3 8 6 1
3 1 5 8 7 6 2 9 0 4
4 9 2 7 6 0 5 3 1 8
9 6 8 3 1 2 4 0 5 7
2 0 1 6 4 8 9 5 7 3
8 3 4 0 9 5 7 1 2 6
1 7 3 5 8 4 6 2 9 0
5 8 6 9 0 3 1 7 4 2
6 2 7 1 3 9 0 4 8 5
7 4 0 2 5 1 8 6 3 9

# Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IAEDFXNKO
# Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IAEDFXONK
# Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IAEDFXOQH
0 6 4 2 7 3 8 9 5 1
3 1 9 8 6 7 2 5 0 4
6 5 2 4 1 9 0 3 7 8
8 7 1 3 5 0 4 6 9 2
2 9 7 1 4 8 3 0 6 5
4 3 8 6 9 5 7 1 2 0
9 0 3 5 2 4 6 8 1 7
1 8 6 9 0 2 5 7 4 3
5 2 0 7 3 1 9 4 8 6
7 4 5 0 8 6 1 2 3 9
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Message 476 - Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 18:18:14 UTC - in response to Message 472.  

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I processed your results.
Found 4786 unique CF ODLS, including 31 groups of four ODLS pairs.

According to your results format, I cannot determine which families you checked.
In addition, many families do not produce solutions.

Could you send a list of all the families you checked?
We need to find out which families are checked from the names_44323p_21332.txt group.

While it is obvious that the check of this group of families is not completed.


I send the input of family used to produce those result plus the other families that are in queue on old server (that is on as I will use it for automatic processing of result on ODLK1 as soon as my scripts will works).

Yes, many families did not produce result.
I did not know if this depends from the Linux version of the program I use or the script I create for processing the queue (this is one of the script that run in a core of server and process all the I* families in the queue):

#!/bin/bash
cd /home/ice/p1

for i in ../input/I*; do
  hash -r
 echo $(basename "${i}")
 cd ./gen/
 ./gen_lk_4_31_31 $(basename "${i}")
 cd ..

 for filename in ./gen/*.txt; do
  cat $filename > input.txt
  ./family_mar3
  mv output.txt ../output/$(basename "$filename" .txt).txt
  rm $filename 
 done
 mv ${i} ../old/
done
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Message 477 - Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 18:45:59 UTC - in response to Message 476.  

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Sorry, but you didn’t answer my question: which families did you check?

Those families that gave results can be seen.
And how to find out the families that you checked, but they did not produce results?
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Message 478 - Posted: 20 Dec 2018, 23:50:47 UTC

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I received and processed your results for the IAFECTULH..IAFUDWHLC families.
Found 270 unique CF ODLS.

All is well.

Do you continue?
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Message 479 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 0:14:06 UTC

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I received lists of families.
As I understand it, the out.txt file contains a list of checked families (16764), the in.txt file contains a list of untested families (35755).

Do you keep checking?
However, I wrote to you a long time ago that you do not need to repeat the check of the families checked by Demis and me.
Why do check twice?
I didn’t know anything about what you are doing.
Therefore, I started an experiment with the names_44323p_21332.txt family of groups.
Do you understand that now only the families of this group need to be checked?

Your checking is performed from different groups of families. It is not right. You do extra work.
You checked only 16764 families. Do you want to check all other families? But why???
More than half of the families have already been checked.
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Message 480 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 0:43:10 UTC

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you spend time doing this experiment on the server.
And you do not want to run an experiment in the ODLK1 BOINC project.
Sorry, but I do not understand it!

I spent a lot of time explaining to you all the instructions.
I wanted to prepare an experiment for the ODLK1 project.
Instead, you perform an experiment on the server. It will take a lot of time.
You have not checked yet half of all families.
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Message 482 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 8:44:22 UTC - in response to Message 469.  

I would love to participate. Just waking up to my first coffee here, and I'll read the thread more thoroughly and get started ASAP. :D

Peppernrino
have you had your coffee yet? :)
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Message 483 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 8:56:26 UTC
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So, I state: in this experiment, ice00 has been working for a long time.
But he checks the families not of order. It gives extra work.

However, this does not interfere with the continuation of the experiment in the way that Tomas Brada began.
In the names_44323p_21332.txt file, it remains to check out only 18,243 families.
Tomas Brada checked 3,089 families.
Many unique ODLS CFs found.

Will we continue this experiment?
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Message 484 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 10:21:00 UTC

hi,

I had the list of families that was given with the program at that time for test.

Then I set up the script and run the program as daemon (it takes up automatically a family and check it), so all is automatic and after had lanch it months ago I did not use other time on it.

As old server is on for the work in automatic process of result, having it running at 100% cpu usage or 0% has no diffrecence for me :)
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Message 485 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 10:32:59 UTC - in response to Message 484.  
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Then I set up the script and run the program as daemon (it takes up automatically a family and check it), so all is automatic and after had lanch it months ago I did not use other time on it.

But in the BOINC-project, too, everything happens automatically!

Ok, your demon is working.
And who will collect and process the results???
Your work will be useless in this case.

I will not ask for your results anymore and will not process them.
Do this useless work!
I'm not interested in this anymore.

There is no understanding from you that it is foolish to do manual work for half a year if there is a valid BOINC project.
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Message 486 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 10:49:06 UTC - in response to Message 484.  
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I had the list of families that was given with the program at that time for test.

I wrote to you 30 Sep 2018 here
https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=45&postid=316#316

Demis and I are already performing an experiment in a manual project.
In this case, you need to check those families that we do not check.
I check the family of names_44323_4696.txt
Demis checks the family of names_43423_26489.txt
You should check the family of names_44323p_21332.txt
Do you understand that you should not do the same work?

Do you read my messages?? You do not understand them?? I'm bad at spelling in english??

Pay attention to this
You should check out the family of names_44323p_21332.txt

In three months you completed the third part of the experiment (16764 families).
For all the work you need 9 months.
This is ridiculous!
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Message 487 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 11:15:47 UTC

I started batch IAFUDXHFI..IAJRSWKHA (count 3072 from number 3091).
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Message 488 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 11:52:26 UTC - in response to Message 487.  
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I started batch IAFUDXHFI..IAJRSWKHA (count 3072 from number 3091).

Tomas
last family checked by you

# Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IAFUDWHLC
0 3 6 7 9 2 8 5 4 1
2 1 7 9 3 8 5 4 0 6
1 5 2 8 6 0 9 3 7 4
9 2 8 3 1 7 4 0 6 5
3 8 1 5 4 6 7 2 9 0
4 9 0 1 8 5 3 6 2 7
7 4 5 2 0 9 6 1 3 8
8 6 9 4 2 1 0 7 5 3
6 7 4 0 5 3 1 9 8 2
5 0 3 6 7 4 2 8 1 9

You must start with family #3090 - IAFUDWNLC.

Right?
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Message 489 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 14:51:04 UTC

I skipped IAFUDWNLC. This is a mistake, sorry. You can check it yourself.
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Message 490 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 15:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 489.  

I skipped IAFUDWNLC. This is a mistake, sorry. You can check it yourself.

Ok.
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Message 491 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 15:26:29 UTC
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I start

**********************************************
Генератор ЛК с симметрией (4,31,31)

Семейство IAFUDWNLC содержит 16384 ЛК
Они записаны в файл family_4_31_31_IAFUDWNLC_16384.txt

**********************************************

total=1

Found solution

0 2 7 9 3 4 8 5 6 1
3 1 4 7 9 8 2 6 0 5
5 8 2 6 0 9 7 3 1 4
1 9 6 3 2 0 4 8 5 7
6 7 8 5 4 2 1 0 9 3
4 3 0 2 6 5 9 1 7 8
9 4 1 8 5 7 6 2 3 0
8 6 9 0 1 3 5 7 4 2
2 5 3 4 7 1 0 9 8 6
7 0 5 1 8 6 3 4 2 9
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Message 494 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 17:19:00 UTC - in response to Message 482.  
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have you had your coffee yet? :)

lol, coffee was great... then some friends stopped in from out of town. I'm going to try and get this working while they are asleep.

currently installing Debian and WINE on a virtual machine to run the script, as I don't have time to figure out how to make it work on Windows.
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Message 495 - Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 19:46:37 UTC - in response to Message 494.  
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currently installing Debian and WINE on a virtual machine to run the script, as I don't have time to figure out how to make it work on Windows.

The app should work fine on windows. But I can't write you a script. I think you could do a simple for loop reading from text file, execute generator, checher, rename, and then run it as many times as you have cores in separate directories and different family input files. This sounds even more complex :(
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