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Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I will add. The experiment of Belyshev was performed out in the Gerasim@Home BOINC project. Belyshev wrote Итак, на ГераÑиме завершилÑÑ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¾ÐµÐºÑ‚ e_70 по поиÑку марьÑжных ДЛК Ñ Ñимметрией (4,31,31). http://forum.boinc.ru/default.aspx?g=posts&m=91381#post91381 I and Demis performed more than half of the experiment manually. |
Send message Joined: 22 Jan 18 Posts: 63 Credit: 373,915 RAC: 0 |
I am sorry that I brought up the topic of the misunderstanding between your colleagues and the copyright issues. Similar thing is happening with projects at http://fusor.net where they had to basically stop the collaboration and work in secret otherwise someone might legally steal their work. It is said and I am really sad about this. I do not want to question the ambitions in your experiment, because I do not know how it works. But sometimes I need to confirm that the computations that we perform here are error-free and useful for you. I want to contribute as much as I can. Second, I was notified by unnamed person that the 8-ary orthogonal group (recent image from you) is not correct. I do not care, but I will later check for errors on my part. Third, if you are serious about copyright, you should include a LICENSE or readme file in the archives you send. Currently 1) you are not crediting Belyshev for the programs and 2) not allowing us to run them. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Second, I was notified by unnamed person that the 8-ary orthogonal group (recent image from you) is not correct. I do not care, but I will later check for errors on my part. Tomas Brada your solution is the right one!! 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 7 6 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 1 6 6 3 1 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 1 6 7 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 6 5 1 sq1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 3 9 5 4 8 3 8 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2 9 5 7 1 0 8 4 2 6 3 4 3 9 2 8 0 5 6 1 7 8 2 0 4 3 9 7 1 5 6 sq2 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 3 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2 9 5 7 1 0 3 4 2 6 8 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 6 1 7 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 1 5 6 sq3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 6 1 1 3 6 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 6 1 7 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 1 5 6 sq4 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 7 6 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 1 6 6 3 1 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 1 6 7 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 6 5 1 sq5 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 3 9 5 4 8 3 8 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2 9 5 7 1 0 8 4 2 6 3 4 3 0 2 8 9 5 6 1 7 8 2 9 4 3 0 7 1 5 6 sq6 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 3 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2 9 5 7 1 0 3 4 2 6 8 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 6 1 7 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 1 5 6 sq7 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 6 1 1 3 6 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 6 1 7 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 1 5 6 sq8 Square: 0 5 4 9 8 3 7 2 6 1 8 1 9 4 6 7 3 5 0 2 4 0 2 8 7 1 5 3 9 6 9 6 1 3 2 0 4 8 5 7 5 7 0 6 4 8 2 9 1 3 6 4 3 7 9 5 1 0 2 8 1 9 8 5 3 2 6 4 7 0 2 8 6 0 1 4 9 7 3 5 3 2 7 1 5 9 0 6 8 4 7 3 5 2 0 6 8 1 4 9 Orthogonal DLSs found on the program of Belyaev. I made a mistake in the illustration: I rearranged the names of the squares sq1 and sq3, but did not rearrange the squares themselves. I know about this mistake. I will fix it today. PS. Your solution is contained in the results_a06.txt - results_a08.txt blocks. I processed the results of these blocks immediately. You can check it out if you want. I was notified by unnamed person... This person is well known. This is citerra. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Third, if you are serious about copyright, you should include a LICENSE or readme file in the archives you send. I give links to programs of Belyshev. Currently 1) you are not crediting Belyshev for the programs and 2) not allowing us to run them. Sorry, I do not understand. I repeat: I will note that Belyshev develops algorithms and software for all, publishes them in open access. Why can not I use the programs of Belyshev? Why you can not use the programs of Belyshev? Belyshev has a claim to me??? The programs of Belyshev are also used in the ODLK and ODLK1 BOINC projects. The programs of Belyshev are also used in the Gerasim@Home BOINC project. Programs of Belyshev have been used in my manual project since 2016. Together with Belyshev we began experiments in a manual project. See http://mathhelpplanet.com/viewtopic.php?p=276832#p276832 Belyshev is a member of team of the ODLK and ODLK1 BOINC projects. Ð’ проекте учаÑтвовали и учаÑтвуют отличные программиÑÑ‚Ñ‹: https://boinc.progger.info/odlk/forum_thread.php?id=1&postid=4#4 |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Tomas Brada your solution is contained in the results_a06.txt block # Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IALQWRGDH Do you see this solution? The second DLS is blue. This solution can be seen by everyone! Here http://www.tbrada.eu/up/results_a06.txt |
Send message Joined: 22 Jan 18 Posts: 63 Credit: 373,915 RAC: 0 |
You can use the programs! But when you send archives to us, like here, there is no notice in the archive about the author or location. You can include your name too, part of it is your work. It is always better to express your credits, rather than rely on implicit. It makes for less confusion, less mistakes and less conflicts. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
But when you send archives to us, like here, there is no notice in the archive about the author or location. You can include your name too, part of it is your work. It is always better to express your credits, rather than rely on implicit. It makes for less confusion, less mistakes and less conflicts. Again: I describe in detail the programs of experiments in the topic. It is available to all! 1. The first generator ASS_DLK10A.exe (my program) works; "Unnamed person" create confusion and conflict. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I fixed the mistake in the illustration. https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=57&postid=610#610 I will show the illustration again The main square A produces 8 orthogonal pairs: A - sq1 A - sq2 A - sq3 A - sq4 A - sq5 A - sq6 A - sq7 A - sq8 The square sq3 produces another orthogonal pair: sq3 - B. PS. And there is still a mistake! I found that square B produces a group of 4 orthogonal pairs 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 3 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2 9 5 7 1 0 3 4 2 6 8 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 6 1 7 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 1 5 6 sq1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 6 1 1 3 6 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 6 1 7 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 1 5 6 sq2 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 3 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2 9 5 7 1 0 3 4 2 6 8 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 6 1 7 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 1 5 6 sq3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 6 1 1 3 6 7 5 4 8 9 2 0 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 6 1 7 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 1 5 6 sq4 Square: 0 5 3 9 8 4 7 2 6 1 8 1 9 4 6 7 3 5 0 2 4 0 2 8 7 1 5 3 9 6 9 6 1 3 2 0 4 8 5 7 5 7 0 6 4 8 2 9 1 3 6 3 4 7 9 5 1 0 2 8 1 9 8 5 3 2 6 4 7 0 2 8 6 0 1 3 9 7 4 5 3 2 7 1 5 9 0 6 8 4 7 4 5 2 0 6 8 1 3 9 I'll take a closer look at this configuration. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
New illustration Now we see also a group of four orthogonal pairs B - sq3 B - sq4 B - sq7 B - sq8. Difficult configuration! I hurried and made mistakes. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
XAVER I received and processed your results for rows 41-50 in the PADLS experiment. Found 63 unique CFs ODLS. All is well. Thanks. I sent you 50 new rows. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
XAVER I received and processed your results for rows 51-60 in the PADLS experiment. Found 70 unique CFs ODLS. All is well. Thanks. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I'll test the compilation of Github code on testing server as soon as possible ice00 you, of course, have not tested anything yet? Russian proverb: "They have been waiting for a promise for three years." This is suitable for you :) |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I found in the PADLS experiment two groups of five pairs of ODLS 0 4 5 8 2 9 3 6 7 1 8 1 3 2 5 4 7 9 0 6 9 7 2 5 6 8 4 3 1 0 1 5 9 3 7 0 2 8 6 4 7 8 1 9 4 6 0 5 2 3 2 6 0 1 8 5 9 4 3 7 4 3 8 7 9 1 6 0 5 2 3 0 4 6 1 2 5 7 9 8 6 9 7 4 0 3 1 2 8 5 5 2 6 0 3 7 8 1 4 9 0 4 7 9 6 8 3 2 5 1 7 1 3 6 2 9 8 5 0 4 4 6 2 8 7 0 9 3 1 5 1 0 6 3 5 4 2 8 9 7 2 3 0 5 4 6 1 9 7 8 3 7 9 4 8 5 0 1 2 6 9 5 8 7 1 2 6 4 3 0 8 2 4 0 9 1 5 7 6 3 6 9 5 1 3 7 4 0 8 2 5 8 1 2 0 3 7 6 4 9 Our database currently contains only three groups of five pairs of ODLS. I will show an illustration for one group of five pairs of ODLS |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Remind everyone! You can process your results if you want to see the solutions found. See See message https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=54&postid=334#334 Software for processing results developed by Belyshev. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
We have problems processing the results in the ODLK1 project. Processing of the results for September - December is still not performed. Project results are published not processed. See https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=56 You can download not processed results for September - December here https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wIf97_bLDvnb1WalOsjU9vODZqRZ_WNw Can you process these results? ice00 has not solved this problem yet. |
Send message Joined: 22 Jan 18 Posts: 63 Credit: 373,915 RAC: 0 |
We have problems processing the results in the ODLK1 project. Processing of the results for September - December is still not performed. Project results are published not processed. I will try to process the results. I am not running the PADLS experiment now. However I made a good progress implementing the BOINC API. It is close to finish. I will run the experiment thru boinc once it is made. I found in the PADLS experiment two groups of five pairs of ODLS I am happy that you are receiving good results. XAVER Are you using programs from my repository? Because I introduced a error there. |
Send message Joined: 27 Dec 18 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,932 RAC: 0 |
For PADLS i use the program downloaded from the russian link provided by Dr. Makarova. Kind regards XAVER |
Send message Joined: 27 Dec 18 Posts: 12 Credit: 5,932 RAC: 0 |
I also currently process the ODKL1 files for October 2018. Will also process November 2018. Kind regards XAVER |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I am happy that you are receiving good results. Thanks. In the PADLS experiment found many interesting results. These are groups of three, four, five, six, seven, eight and ten pairs of ODLS. Not yet found a group of nine ODLS pairs. Demis also participated in the experiment. |
Send message Joined: 22 Oct 17 Posts: 3083 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
I also currently process the ODKL1 files for October 2018. Will also process November 2018. XAVER when processing the results, pay attention to groups of pairs of ODLS (three or more). You will see these groups in the files out_kf_3.txt, out_kf_4.txt, out_kf_5.txt etc. These files also need to send me. |
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