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Message 613 - Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 17:56:02 UTC
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I will add.
The experiment of Belyshev was performed out in the Gerasim@Home BOINC project.
Belyshev wrote
Итак, на Герасиме завершился проект e_70 по поиску марьяжных ДЛК с симметрией (4,31,31).

http://forum.boinc.ru/default.aspx?g=posts&m=91381#post91381

I and Demis performed more than half of the experiment manually.
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Message 614 - Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 21:54:13 UTC

I am sorry that I brought up the topic of the misunderstanding between your colleagues and the copyright issues. Similar thing is happening with projects at http://fusor.net where they had to basically stop the collaboration and work in secret otherwise someone might legally steal their work. It is said and I am really sad about this. I do not want to question the ambitions in your experiment, because I do not know how it works. But sometimes I need to confirm that the computations that we perform here are error-free and useful for you. I want to contribute as much as I can.

Second, I was notified by unnamed person that the 8-ary orthogonal group (recent image from you) is not correct. I do not care, but I will later check for errors on my part.

Third, if you are serious about copyright, you should include a LICENSE or readme file in the archives you send. Currently 1) you are not crediting Belyshev for the programs and 2) not allowing us to run them.
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Message 615 - Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 22:42:27 UTC - in response to Message 614.  
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Second, I was notified by unnamed person that the 8-ary orthogonal group (recent image from you) is not correct. I do not care, but I will later check for errors on my part.

Tomas Brada
your solution is the right one!!

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 1 7 6 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4
 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5
 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 1 6
 6 3 1 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2
 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8
 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 1 6 7
 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 6 5 1
sq1

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 3 9 5 4 8
 3 8 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4
 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5
 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1
 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2
 9 5 7 1 0 8 4 2 6 3
 4 3 9 2 8 0 5 6 1 7
 8 2 0 4 3 9 7 1 5 6
sq2

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 3 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4
 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5
 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1
 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2
 9 5 7 1 0 3 4 2 6 8
 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 6 1 7
 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 1 5 6
sq3

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4
 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5
 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 6 1
 1 3 6 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2
 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8
 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 6 1 7
 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 1 5 6
sq4

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 1 7 6 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4
 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5
 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 1 6
 6 3 1 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2
 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8
 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 1 6 7
 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 6 5 1
sq5

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 3 9 5 4 8
 3 8 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4
 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5
 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1
 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2
 9 5 7 1 0 8 4 2 6 3
 4 3 0 2 8 9 5 6 1 7
 8 2 9 4 3 0 7 1 5 6
sq6

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 3 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4
 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5
 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1
 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2
 9 5 7 1 0 3 4 2 6 8
 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 6 1 7
 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 1 5 6
sq7

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4
 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5
 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 6 1
 1 3 6 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2
 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8
 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 6 1 7
 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 1 5 6
sq8

Square:
 0 5 4 9 8 3 7 2 6 1
 8 1 9 4 6 7 3 5 0 2
 4 0 2 8 7 1 5 3 9 6
 9 6 1 3 2 0 4 8 5 7
 5 7 0 6 4 8 2 9 1 3
 6 4 3 7 9 5 1 0 2 8
 1 9 8 5 3 2 6 4 7 0
 2 8 6 0 1 4 9 7 3 5
 3 2 7 1 5 9 0 6 8 4
 7 3 5 2 0 6 8 1 4 9

Orthogonal DLSs found on the program of Belyaev.

I made a mistake in the illustration: I rearranged the names of the squares sq1 and sq3, but did not rearrange the squares themselves.
I know about this mistake. I will fix it today.

PS. Your solution is contained in the results_a06.txt - results_a08.txt blocks.
I processed the results of these blocks immediately.
You can check it out if you want.

I was notified by unnamed person...

This person is well known.
This is citerra.
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Message 616 - Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 23:16:00 UTC
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Third, if you are serious about copyright, you should include a LICENSE or readme file in the archives you send.

I give links to programs of Belyshev.

Currently 1) you are not crediting Belyshev for the programs and 2) not allowing us to run them.

Sorry, I do not understand.
I repeat:
I will note that Belyshev develops algorithms and software for all, publishes them in open access.

Why can not I use the programs of Belyshev?
Why you can not use the programs of Belyshev?
Belyshev has a claim to me???

The programs of Belyshev are also used in the ODLK and ODLK1 BOINC projects.
The programs of Belyshev are also used in the Gerasim@Home BOINC project.

Programs of Belyshev have been used in my manual project since 2016.
Together with Belyshev we began experiments in a manual project.
See
http://mathhelpplanet.com/viewtopic.php?p=276832#p276832

Belyshev is a member of team of the ODLK and ODLK1 BOINC projects.

В проекте участвовали и участвуют отличные программисты:
С. Беляев (Россия)
А. Белышев (Россия)
В. Чирков (Россия)
S. Tognon (Италия)
H. White (Канада)

https://boinc.progger.info/odlk/forum_thread.php?id=1&postid=4#4
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Message 617 - Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 23:38:06 UTC
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Tomas Brada
your solution is contained in the results_a06.txt block

# Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IALQWRGDH
# Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IALQWRHBG
# Generator=generator_lk_4_31_31 family=IALQWRHDA
0 5 3 9 8 4 7 2 6 1
8 1 9 4 6 7 3 5 0 2
4 0 2 8 7 1 5 3 9 6
9 6 1 3 2 0 4 8 5 7
5 7 0 6 4 8 2 9 1 3
6 3 4 7 9 5 1 0 2 8
1 9 8 5 3 2 6 4 7 0
2 8 6 0 1 3 9 7 4 5
3 2 7 1 5 9 0 6 8 4
7 4 5 2 0 6 8 1 3 9

0 5 4 9 8 3 7 2 6 1
8 1 9 4 6 7 3 5 0 2
4 0 2 8 7 1 5 3 9 6
9 6 1 3 2 0 4 8 5 7
5 7 0 6 4 8 2 9 1 3
6 4 3 7 9 5 1 0 2 8
1 9 8 5 3 2 6 4 7 0
2 8 6 0 1 4 9 7 3 5
3 2 7 1 5 9 0 6 8 4
7 3 5 2 0 6 8 1 4 9


Do you see this solution? The second DLS is blue.

This solution can be seen by everyone!
Here
http://www.tbrada.eu/up/results_a06.txt
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Message 618 - Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 0:05:11 UTC - in response to Message 616.  

You can use the programs!

But when you send archives to us, like here, there is no notice in the archive about the author or location. You can include your name too, part of it is your work. It is always better to express your credits, rather than rely on implicit. It makes for less confusion, less mistakes and less conflicts.
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Message 619 - Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 0:14:13 UTC - in response to Message 618.  
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But when you send archives to us, like here, there is no notice in the archive about the author or location. You can include your name too, part of it is your work. It is always better to express your credits, rather than rely on implicit. It makes for less confusion, less mistakes and less conflicts.

Again: I describe in detail the programs of experiments in the topic.
It is available to all!
1. The first generator ASS_DLK10A.exe (my program) works;
2. The second generator PSEVDOASS_DLK_new.exe (my program) is working;
3. Two sets of DLSs are combined, the program kanonizator_dlk_1.03.exe by Belyshev is used;
4. The DLSs set is check using the program family_mar.exe of Belyshev.

"Unnamed person" create confusion and conflict.
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Message 620 - Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 10:13:27 UTC
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I fixed the mistake in the illustration.
https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=57&postid=610#610

I will show the illustration again



The main square A produces 8 orthogonal pairs:
A - sq1
A - sq2
A - sq3
A - sq4
A - sq5
A - sq6
A - sq7
A - sq8

The square sq3 produces another orthogonal pair: sq3 - B.

PS. And there is still a mistake!
I found that square B produces a group of 4 orthogonal pairs

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 3 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4
 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5
 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1
 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2
 9 5 7 1 0 3 4 2 6 8
 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 6 1 7
 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 1 5 6
sq1

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4
 2 0 4 8 6 7 1 3 9 5
 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 6 1
 1 3 6 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 9 8 6 7 1 3 4 0 2
 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8
 4 8 9 2 3 0 5 6 1 7
 3 2 0 4 8 9 7 1 5 6
sq2

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 3 5 9 1 6 2 0 7 4
 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5
 7 4 6 5 9 2 0 8 3 1
 1 6 3 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2
 9 5 7 1 0 3 4 2 6 8
 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 6 1 7
 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 1 5 6
sq3

 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 6 7 1 0 2 8 9 5 4 3
 8 6 5 9 1 3 2 0 7 4
 2 9 4 8 6 7 1 3 0 5
 7 4 3 5 9 2 0 8 6 1
 1 3 6 7 5 4 8 9 2 0
 5 0 8 6 7 1 3 4 9 2
 9 5 7 1 0 6 4 2 3 8
 4 8 0 2 3 9 5 6 1 7
 3 2 9 4 8 0 7 1 5 6
sq4

Square:
 0 5 3 9 8 4 7 2 6 1
 8 1 9 4 6 7 3 5 0 2
 4 0 2 8 7 1 5 3 9 6
 9 6 1 3 2 0 4 8 5 7
 5 7 0 6 4 8 2 9 1 3
 6 3 4 7 9 5 1 0 2 8
 1 9 8 5 3 2 6 4 7 0
 2 8 6 0 1 3 9 7 4 5
 3 2 7 1 5 9 0 6 8 4
 7 4 5 2 0 6 8 1 3 9

I'll take a closer look at this configuration.
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Message 622 - Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 11:39:28 UTC
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New illustration



Now we see also a group of four orthogonal pairs
B - sq3
B - sq4
B - sq7
B - sq8.

Difficult configuration!

I hurried and made mistakes.
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Message 623 - Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 14:18:25 UTC

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I received and processed your results for rows 41-50 in the PADLS experiment.
Found 63 unique CFs ODLS.

All is well.
Thanks.

I sent you 50 new rows.
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Message 624 - Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 4:31:16 UTC

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I received and processed your results for rows 51-60 in the PADLS experiment.
Found 70 unique CFs ODLS.

All is well.
Thanks.
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Message 625 - Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 4:40:37 UTC - in response to Message 587.  
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I'll test the compilation of Github code on testing server as soon as possible

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you, of course, have not tested anything yet?

Russian proverb: "They have been waiting for a promise for three years."
This is suitable for you :)
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Message 627 - Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 13:53:14 UTC
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I found in the PADLS experiment two groups of five pairs of ODLS

0 4 5 8 2 9 3 6 7 1
8 1 3 2 5 4 7 9 0 6
9 7 2 5 6 8 4 3 1 0
1 5 9 3 7 0 2 8 6 4
7 8 1 9 4 6 0 5 2 3
2 6 0 1 8 5 9 4 3 7
4 3 8 7 9 1 6 0 5 2
3 0 4 6 1 2 5 7 9 8
6 9 7 4 0 3 1 2 8 5
5 2 6 0 3 7 8 1 4 9

0 4 7 9 6 8 3 2 5 1
7 1 3 6 2 9 8 5 0 4
4 6 2 8 7 0 9 3 1 5
1 0 6 3 5 4 2 8 9 7
2 3 0 5 4 6 1 9 7 8
3 7 9 4 8 5 0 1 2 6
9 5 8 7 1 2 6 4 3 0
8 2 4 0 9 1 5 7 6 3
6 9 5 1 3 7 4 0 8 2
5 8 1 2 0 3 7 6 4 9

Our database currently contains only three groups of five pairs of ODLS.

I will show an illustration for one group of five pairs of ODLS

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Message 628 - Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 14:04:07 UTC
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Remind everyone!

You can process your results if you want to see the solutions found.

See
http://forum.boinc.ru/default.aspx?g=posts&m=91190#post91190

Download link archive
https://yadi.sk/d/jga_oPqjuhuYC

Now you have to write the results to the file input.txt and run the zamyk.bat script.
All CF ODLS will be written to the file out_klpmd.txt.

See message
https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=54&postid=334#334

Software for processing results developed by Belyshev.
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Message 629 - Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 14:23:09 UTC

We have problems processing the results in the ODLK1 project.

Processing of the results for September - December is still not performed.
Project results are published not processed.
See
https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=56

You can download not processed results for September - December here
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wIf97_bLDvnb1WalOsjU9vODZqRZ_WNw

Can you process these results?

ice00 has not solved this problem yet.
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Message 630 - Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 20:07:34 UTC - in response to Message 629.  

We have problems processing the results in the ODLK1 project. Processing of the results for September - December is still not performed. Project results are published not processed.
See
https://boinc.multi-pool.info/latinsquares/forum_thread.php?id=56
You can download not processed results for September - December here
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wIf97_bLDvnb1WalOsjU9vODZqRZ_WNw
Can you process these results?

I will try to process the results.

I am not running the PADLS experiment now. However I made a good progress implementing the BOINC API. It is close to finish. I will run the experiment thru boinc once it is made.

I found in the PADLS experiment two groups of five pairs of ODLS

I am happy that you are receiving good results.

XAVER Are you using programs from my repository? Because I introduced a error there.
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Message 631 - Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 23:16:36 UTC - in response to Message 630.  

For PADLS i use the program downloaded from the russian link provided by Dr. Makarova.

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Message 632 - Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 23:19:52 UTC

I also currently process the ODKL1 files for October 2018. Will also process November 2018.

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Message 633 - Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 6:54:18 UTC - in response to Message 630.  
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I am happy that you are receiving good results.

Thanks.

In the PADLS experiment found many interesting results.
These are groups of three, four, five, six, seven, eight and ten pairs of ODLS.
Not yet found a group of nine ODLS pairs.

Demis also participated in the experiment.
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Message 634 - Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 7:33:11 UTC - in response to Message 632.  
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I also currently process the ODKL1 files for October 2018. Will also process November 2018.

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when processing the results, pay attention to groups of pairs of ODLS (three or more).
You will see these groups in the files
out_kf_3.txt, out_kf_4.txt, out_kf_5.txt
etc.

These files also need to send me.
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